Beating drunk women in public..

There is safety in numbers so it is always good to be on the side of larger disc1public opinion but what gets compromised in rhetoric on both sides are the facts of the case.There is no questioning that it is unlawful to beat women up in public but it is also true whether we should allow our youngsters to have Alcohal freely that too in the day time in the name of a free society and “pub culture’.What starts as an isolated incident becomes a problem for the society if not checked.I have myself seen scores of teenagers on the streets of European cities wasting away under the haze of cocaine.Have you ever wondered why is drug abuse such a big problem in the west and not as much in India.Face the reality – would you allow your sons and daughters to mix freely in an inebriated state with a confused mind and crazy hormones enticing them to give in to a natural instinct.As in most questions there are no black and white answers but we need to keep looking for them.

The point here is that women should not have been singled out and there could have been more civic ways to drive home the point that it is shameful to be drunk on afternoon when you can indulge in more  constructive pursuits.Obviously politics is not interested in solving a problem but creating it so there could be an agenda for the election.

It is difficult to wish away a culture which has conditioned us for the past 5000 years.Manu,the originator of  Hindu religion observes :

Her Father guides her in childhood,

Her husband in her youth,

and her sons in her old age,

A women is not fit for independance.

Contextual as it may be(Tulsidas had an stressfull marriage) this verse in ramayana also reflects the psyche of Indian mindscape :

Dhol Ganwaar shudra Pashu naari,

Sakal taadna ke Adhikari.

(translates drums,idiots,untouchables  and women need a  beating to set them straight)

and yet another one declares :

Triya Charitram Purushasya Bhagya,Devo na jaanati Kuto Manushya ?

( translates a woman’s character and a man’s destiny even gods do not know so how can a human being?)

While these are not my personal beliefs what I am trying to drive is that all major religions have talked about women in derogatory terms for ages and it will take time for millions of masses to see the dim light of the disc that the young generation can see so conveniently.

For those of you who wish to challenge me I will suggest you to narrate the entire incident in totality to any of the elders in your family and get their views.After all they also vote in a free democracy.Don’t they ?

Get real .It is a clear attempt to polarize vote bank in the lection season.They came on the camera,beat up people doing immoral things(as per them),debated on national television and finally became heroes to some by getting themselves arrested.On the other hand those who were victimised hid their faces and the one girl who turned up also kept saying that “we will go to the Pub,We will go to the Pub – No matter “As if she was going to fight on the border for the country.You see how cleverly the game was played.They should have come out in the open, made their point and taken action against those who used violence.There are ways to humiliate the tormentor.A very good effort has since been made.Pls visit Lucknowi says :

Tere mathe pe yeh Aanchal bahut he khoob hai lekin

Tu is aanchal ko Parcham(flag of war) bana leti to achcha tha

Tu is nashtar(sword) ki tezi aazma leti to achcha tha.

The same hindu religion believes in Shakti to be the originator of all the cosmic energy and even Bramha,Vishnu, Mahesh respect her power.

9 comments on “Beating drunk women in public..

  1. Aahang, what exactly is your opinion?
    Disguising it by claiming that you’re trying to show all aspects of the situation makes your own argument seem weak.
    What do you really think about it?

    • aahang says:

      The act of beating youngsters was outright wrong and needs to be condemned , punished.Period.
      Based on the feedback received I have updated the post and you will now be able to comprehend my position.It is important that both sides say what they want and then let people decide.Truth shall always triumph.By not putting the facts forward we in fact help the perpetrators of these dastardly acts.They plan to play to a certain audience and let us expose them there too.That is the point I wish to make.Pls do see the updated post and comment.

  2. Avanish says:

    While I appreciate your ‘balancing act’ in your post on this controversial issue, but the approach for such acts should be outright condemnation with no ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’. Because acts like this are the precursors for ‘talibanasation’ of societies as we are witnessing in several parts of the world.

    Nobody has the right to censor any adult’s private action as long as they do not interfere in his/her own freedom. And men or women drinking in any pub were not in any way interfering with somebody. And these so called moral ‘thekedars’, if you look at their history they will be amoral then any of those whom they have beaten. These are purely pervert minds who have to be imprisioned lifetime.

    As far as selective quoting of religous text is concerned, while there are only a couple of such slokas/dohas (which are always quoted in such reactions), there are thousand others which respect and give woman the highest place which are never mentioned. And anyway justifying somebody’s action on behalf some written word somewhere is also not justified.
    Moreover, just to be more specific, the oft qutoed doha from Tulsidad’s Ramacharitmanas is completely misquoted by everybody. This doha is said by the ‘Ocean’ when he came out repenting that he did not provide passage to Ramaji’s sena for going to Lanka. The ocean is itself shown to be a foolish timid fellow with little knowledge of what is right or wrong. So it is not Bhagwan Rama but some foolish character who is saying such a statement. That way Ravan must have said so many lousy things about all things in life, but can he be quoted. So please next time do not quote at least this doha for degrading woman’s place through Hindu religious text.

    • aahang says:

      You know what our problem is – we want the world to be simple and straight.Unfortunately it is not.I wanted you to highlight that a negative character blurted out the lines demeaning women but tell me how many people know that.I deliberately put it there.The fact is that there are people who are misguided by these actions and taken for a ride to the polling booth.Unless we put the things in perspective and let people take a call themselves you will never be able to get a conviction of those who are in if and but mode.And there are many of them in the uneducated section of our society.The secretary of SriRam sene came on Television for a debate and while Arnab Goswani let Rudy and his counterpart fight like maddys just as they do everyday on every channel he just did not let the guy speak.I do not understand how a moderator can take part in a debate with his own view point.I for one wanted to hear out the young guy as to what went on in his mind as all of know that there could be any justification for what he did.He scored over everyone else by saying” You know the first call I got was from my mother who reprimanded me on this act of violence”.He made it seem that he did not wish to do it but was forced into it because of the debauch actions of those who were beaten and police inaction.Now you may not buy it but beleive me there are millions who would.We need to change the way we address issues.

  3. shilpa says:

    nothing personal bhai, just trying to be funny, don’t have your sense of humor, i guess !

  4. shilpa says:

    I happen to know your father and your grand father and apparently they didn’t think so. Apparently, if there was a bias, I should have been the first to know. I wonder where you belong though …origin of species ?

    • aahang says:

      I am just trying to look at things from different frames.I already pointed out that the views were not mine so I do not understand a personal assault.Pushing others to agree to your world view is a form of fundamentalism albeit of a different kind.Neiztche said ” if everyone agrees then no one is thinking”.

  5. No matter what the back story is, whether they were under the influence or not, not one has the right to beat up men or women in any shape or form.
    Psychologically, violence as a punishment will not teach anything either.
    If alcohol is a problem, there should be stricter drinking laws devised. The idea of democracy is that there is a democratic government. A government. So that the people don’t take the law into their own hands.

    • aahang says:

      Your views are echoed in my post too.I have also tried to explained government inaction stemming out of hate politics.I agree that violence does not solve anything”an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind”.Thanks for your comments.

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